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Beau Peep Notice Board => Outpourings => Topic started by: Colin on December 13, 2007, 09:07:39 PM

Title: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Colin on December 13, 2007, 09:07:39 PM
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

Someone tell me how it ends so I can turn it over.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: The Peepmaster on December 13, 2007, 09:22:01 PM
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

Someone tell me how it ends so I can turn it over.

The hairy potter drops his unfired goblet on the floor, and has to get some more clay to make a new one. As plots go, it's not really the most exciting.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Mince on December 13, 2007, 10:39:34 PM
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

Someone tell me how it ends so I can turn it over.

It gets even more boring.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Malc on December 14, 2007, 12:45:46 PM
He makes a new clay goblet? Is that it?
I wonder how long it'll be before someone has the courage to say Harry Potter books are all shite?
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Diamond Lil on December 14, 2007, 08:44:49 PM
Anyone else care to join me in announcing I haven't even read one of them 8)
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Mince on December 14, 2007, 08:49:59 PM
I have not ready any Harry Potter books and never will.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Tom on December 14, 2007, 08:56:30 PM
I've never read one either... I have seen bits of the movie though. (Is there more than one?)
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Roger Kettle on December 14, 2007, 09:16:33 PM
Well, neither have I but it's pretty impressive that this woman has managed to get millions of kids worldwide to actually pick up a book. In an age of multi-channel T.V. and computer games, Rowling's success is as astonishing as it is praiseworthy. As most of you know, I have strong connections with Montana and, therefore, follow what goes on there. Hundreds of kids there queued up at midnight to grab the first copies of every new edition that appeared. Now, we're talking about a woman sitting in an Edinburgh cafe, coming up with an idea that kids in an American Western State will do anything to get their hands on and READ. She should be applauded.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Colin on December 14, 2007, 09:40:04 PM
Clap, clap.

I've never read any either.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: peter on December 14, 2007, 09:41:28 PM
Well, neither have I but it's pretty impressive that this woman has managed to get millions of kids worldwide to actually pick up a book. In an age of multi-channel T.V. and computer games, Rowling's success is as astonishing as it is praiseworthy. As most of you know, I have strong connections with Montana and, therefore, follow what goes on there. Hundreds of kids there queued up at midnight to grab the first copies of every new edition that appeared. Now, we're talking about a woman sitting in an Edinburgh cafe, coming up with an idea that kids in an American Western State will do anything to get their hands on and READ. She should be applauded.

Bet you wished you had thought of it.
P.S.I have read the first four novels,just so I could talk to my grand daughter.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Malc on December 14, 2007, 10:39:26 PM
Agree with all that, the determination, the stoicism against the odds, etc. Rowling tried sixteen publishers before anyone took a punt on her, every one of them thought her tale of schoolboy wizards was somehow derivative, old-fashioned, too insular, the worldwide market wouldn't take to such a British concept, etc.

I don't begrudge J.K a single penny. She's revealed the publishing industry for what it is, a bunch of cretins, dragging the industry of literature into an increasing slough of celebrity projects and airport reading.I've never read a Harry Potter book, but I'm curious to know how long it will take for the literati to come out and say they're dreadfully written? I'm sure they are, especially the ones Rowling had to dash out ahead of a slavering public.

Or are they actually (by some miracle) the works of genius? I'd love to know. However, I don't have any intention of reading one. Life's too short.

The Harry Potter movies are utter garbage, badly directed, badly scripted, badly acted, the plots are all over the place and the things are carried by the sets and CGI.

We will look back on the movies in twenty years the way we presently look at the Superman series. I can't believe anyone bought that!
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Vulture on December 14, 2007, 11:11:08 PM
I have not ready any Harry Potter books and never will.

Mince! That's what you get for eating Peter's sweeties.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Colin on December 14, 2007, 11:26:17 PM
I have not ready any Harry Potter books and never will.

Mince! That's what you get for eating Peter's sweeties.

He'll be checking everyone else's from top to toe from now on. he he
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Mince on December 15, 2007, 01:02:39 AM
Well, neither have I but it's pretty impressive that this woman has managed to get millions of kids worldwide to actually pick up a book.

Has she? Or were all these millions reading already anyway?
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Malc on December 15, 2007, 07:11:19 AM
Maybe, but they weren't queueing outside bookstores waiting for the latest release, like they did for Goblet Of Fire, or whatever.

Thing is, do we know that reading amongst that generation has increased generally as a result of Harry Potter? Or did it merely suck in the existing readers and now it's all over?

Not JK Rowling's problem, I know, she did her bit.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Roger Kettle on December 15, 2007, 09:39:57 AM
Well, neither have I but it's pretty impressive that this woman has managed to get millions of kids worldwide to actually pick up a book.

Has she? Or were all these millions reading already anyway?
According to research--and anything that successful in the publishing business REALLY gets researched---a huge proportion of those who bought the books had never attempted to read anything that weighty (in size) before. Another sizeable chunk had never read ANY' kind of book at all.
Watch out for "Beau Peep and the Goblet of Dragons".
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Mince on December 15, 2007, 11:35:30 AM
Maybe, but they weren't queueing outside bookstores waiting for the latest release, like they did for Goblet Of Fire, or whatever.

But perhaps they still did await new releases of books they enjoyed but not all at the same time or for the same book. I wonder how many who have read Harry Potter as their first book would have read books anyway and far better ones without Harry Potter being around.

The point is that not everyone likes the same thing. Different people enjoy different books. That millions of kids all queued for the Harry Potter books must be down more to the craze and hype than the fact that the books are good, and that in my opinion is not a good thing. I hope these readers try other and better authors now that Rowling has finished her series.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Mince on December 15, 2007, 11:40:13 AM
According to research--and anything that successful in the publishing business REALLY gets researched---a huge proportion of those who bought the books had never attempted to read anything that weighty (in size) before. Another sizeable chunk had never read ANY' kind of book at all.

And of that huge proportion did those who bought the book read it? And surely if before Harry Potter you asked every kid who bought a book whether they had read a book before, a huge proportion would say that they had not. After all, the younger the reader, the more likely it's their first book.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: The Peepmaster on December 15, 2007, 01:16:19 PM
My bird's little lad of 11 is an avid reader of Harry Potter. It's a job to get him to tear himself away from it to eat a meal, or watch the telly. He's now graduated to wanting to read similar books by other authors. Whatever the catalyst was to get these kids to become enthusiatic about reading has to be a good thing. The popularity of Harry Potter has definitely played a huge part in this.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Malc on December 15, 2007, 02:11:56 PM
So there.
Title: Re: I'm watching on TV at the moment
Post by: Mince on December 15, 2007, 02:37:52 PM
My bird's little lad of 11 is an avid reader of Harry Potter. It's a job to get him to tear himself away from it to eat a meal, or watch the telly. He's now graduated to wanting to read similar books by other authors. Whatever the catalyst was to get these kids to become enthusiatic about reading has to be a good thing. The popularity of Harry Potter has definitely played a huge part in this.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc: Eleven-year-old wants to read more books. This happened after reading Harry Potter. Therefore, Harry Potter was the cause of him reading more books.

Alternative: Children who are not interested in reading would not care to read Harry Potter. The eleven-year-old read Harry Potter so he is interested in reading. Therefore, he would have read more books whether or not Harry Potter existed.