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Offline Roger Kettle

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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2009, 12:55:31 PM »
That last line dates you, Tarks!

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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2009, 04:49:13 PM »
I stopped reviewing films after a recent one I enjoyed scored 4% on RottenTomatoes.

I watched "9 pounds" with Will Smith and thought it scrappy and macabre.

I watched "Day the Earth Stood Still" and thought it rubbish.


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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2009, 08:33:22 PM »
KLAATU BARADA NICTO

Brilliant film! I guess it was the remake wasn't good.  I haven't seen it.  Why do people remake superb classics?

The remake of the Flight of the Phoenix was OK.

I saw Gort in Seattle.

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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2009, 08:52:16 PM »
KLAATU BARADA NICTO
I had to look that up - I thought you were referring to Countdown the movie.

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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2009, 09:08:36 PM »
Petal, you ask a good question about why companies remake classics and I guess the answer is money. King Kong was wondrous in its 1930's form and pointless in the two subsequent versions. Alfie was another film which only worked in its original setting in the sixties. It's said that the modern technology available to film-makers today can enhance earlier productions and I don't believe a word of it. The quality and spirit of a film are what matters---not the ability to make a dinosaur, or whatever, more "realistic". I use quotes there because I'm not convinced this is the case.

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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2009, 10:51:23 PM »
The quality and spirit of a film are what matters---not the ability to make a dinosaur, or whatever, more "realistic".

I disagree. Special effects from older films don't hold up to those of today, except in our fond memories. And today's special effects make those of yesterday seem laughable and naff. The problem with remakes that involve special effects is that the special effects are improved but the quality and spirit are lost, either because the special effects get in the way or because the film-makers are rubbish. Doctor Who is an example of a "remake" that not only has quality effects but also quality story and entertainment; the originals don't compare. Having said that, I can't think of many more remakes that are good.

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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2009, 11:09:36 PM »
The quality and spirit of a film are what matters---not the ability to make a dinosaur, or whatever, more "realistic".

I disagree. Special effects from older films don't hold up to those of today, except in our fond memories. And today's special effects make those of yesterday seem laughable and naff. The problem with remakes that involve special effects is that the special effects are improved but the quality and spirit are lost, either because the special effects get in the way or because the film-makers are rubbish. Doctor Who is an example of a "remake" that not only has quality effects but also quality story and entertainment; the originals don't compare. Having said that, I can't think of many more remakes that are good.

Eloquently put, Mince, and I tend to agree with much that you say. Good post.
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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2009, 05:39:05 AM »
Eloquently put, Mince, and I tend to agree with much that you say. Good post.

Okay, now I'm suspicious. Why are you being nice to me?

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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2009, 06:36:05 AM »
I'd have to agree - Nige was civil to Mince on two posts - kinda creeped me out.

"For your Consideration" - lasted about 5 minutes before we knew it was a load of twaddle and switched it off.

Funnily enough, "Volver" (Penelope Cruiz) was the best out of the library bunch this week - however I heard that Disney's Cars was good.

I didn't understand "Eternal Sunshine" - I got the premise - but couldn't understand how two people tottering on the pinicle of middle age had such a juvenile relationship. Erasing people from the memory is a stupid idea - burrying them by the river in a deep freezer - much better plot.

We should put our heads together and write a movie! If there is an Oscar to be won though, I want to be the one holding it during the acceptance speech.


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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2009, 08:03:48 AM »
The reason Hollywood does remakes? Ah, sit yourself down and let me tell you a tale..
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The hardest thing to get across to the finance people, and I believe we might have touched on this previously, is an original concept.
Try going into a pitch session with "this is a movie about a guy who is born very old, and as he goes through life, he gets younger until he dies as a baby."

I can guarantee you, blank stares and sideline glances will occur. At least until you say "Brad Pitt is attached", then of course its inherent genius as a concept will be revealed to the assembled throng as though luminated by lightning.
"Brad Pitt is attached" is a phrase which carries a lot of weight and which unlocks a lot of doors.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to find there is a deal of smoking in "Benjamin Button"

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If you have neither tobacco money, nor huge stars in your back pocket, then a famous classic or marvellously successful new book (Lord of The Rings or Gone With The Wind) might do, or last of all, - a Remake! These have the disadvantage of a hefty fee for rights-acquisition (LOTR did have a famous smoking scene, by the way involving Gandalf) but they do carry a massive advantage as regards selling the movie is concerned - a Brand. In other words, the public instantly recognizes the title and thinks warmly of it , something promo people prize very highly.

This works well even in the pop field, Elvis Costello chose his name as a joke but also with a recognised brand association in mind. People don't know why Jethro Tull "stuck" as a name, but most kids of certain generation had a smidgeon of recognition from their history lessons - it wasn't just a cool sounding name.

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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2009, 02:48:49 PM »
Well I shall be looking out for the smoking going on in the movies from now on. You have probably spoiled movies for me forever.
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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2009, 04:55:10 PM »
The reason Hollywood does remakes? Ah, sit yourself down and let me tell you a tale..
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Yes, it doesnt matter how obvious it is that money is the only language Hollywood understands, it doesnt make it any less depressing.
It's what makes an outstanding film like 'Black Book' realtively unheard of because cinemas will show it once a night for a week, whereas, 'Dude, You Totally Barfed on the Prom Queen 2,' will get a 6 week run on two screens because the film companies know that the adolescent 'gross-out' audience will pull in more money.
People are being deprived of seeing excellent film making on the big screen!!!

Anyway, back to the reviewing. I caught a bit of Monty Python's The Meaning of Life last night. I wasn't impressed. Mr Creosote aside, there wasnt a laugh in it. You'd never believe it had come from the same minds as Monty Python's good stuff.

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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2009, 12:10:05 PM »
Malc, do you make the Orange Movie adverts?

If so I'm a big fan!  :D

(I tried to insert a link to a video clip here but it inserted the clip itself - is that allowed?)

Here it is without the WWW:  youtube.com/watch?v=FsBDUe4UPd0&NR=1

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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2009, 09:05:06 AM »
The new Star Trek film looks rather good:


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Re: Movie Reviews.
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2009, 10:09:17 AM »
Even I recognise that anyone besides Shatner as Captain Kirk is a bad idea. And I don't even like Star Trek.