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Title: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Roger Kettle on June 18, 2009, 10:52:54 PM
Okay, guys, it's my Custer quiz time again. Because of a mailing problem, I've had even less time to complete it this year and I'm really struggling. Of the twenty questions, I have, so far, completed only eight of them. I've obviously tried to google the following questions but maybe you guys can approach them from a different angle.
What was the name of the horse Custer had shot out from under him on August 11th, 1873 at the Yellowstone fight? (not Dandy!).
Name the 7th Cavalryman (a Little Bighorn survivor) who later guarded Charles Guiteau, the assassin of President James Garfield?
Who was Dan Tucker? (I've looked at this and can find nothing connected to Custer).
Name the Little Bighorn survivor, a Medal of Honor recipient, who later worked for Lieut. Francis Gibson in the New York City Street Department.
What was a "blolahunkal"?
What did former Battlefield ranger Marin Dawes claim to have seen behind the present day Custer Battlefield Trading Post?
Thanks to anyone who makes time to even bother about this!
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Diane CBPFC on June 19, 2009, 12:12:01 AM
I'm working on the blolahunka one...

Facebook to the rescue:
What is a blolahunkal (Think Custer/Battle of the Little Big Horn)? Any smarty pants out there who can help my friend win a competition for history buffs.

Some of my friends are pretty smart.  ;D
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Vulture on June 19, 2009, 05:49:26 AM
So far, I've only managed this:

Chief Ranger Marvin Dawes took these eerily striking photographs of Custer Battlefield on the morning of April 8, 2008. We witness monuments and memorials struggling to be seen through the fine mist.

http://www.friendslittlebighorn.com/mistsalonglittlebighornbattlefield.htm

Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Vulture on June 19, 2009, 06:01:37 AM

Name the Little Bighorn survivor, a Medal of Honor recipient, who later worked for Lieut. Francis Gibson in the New York City Street Department.


Neil Bancroft.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 06:58:06 AM
Was the horsie called "Vic"?

"He rode his horse - Vic - into battle at the LBH. Vic was either killed or was a POW." http://www.mohicanpress.com/wwwboard1/messages/416.html
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Vulture on June 19, 2009, 07:09:18 AM
Was the horsie called "Vic"?

"He rode his horse - Vic - into battle at the LBH. Vic was either killed or was a POW." http://www.mohicanpress.com/wwwboard1/messages/416.html

I don't think so. The horse was shot from under Custer in a battle 2 - 3 years before LBH.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Tarquin Thunderthighs lll on June 19, 2009, 08:10:02 AM
Geez - I'm so glad I resisted posting loads of silly answers now. You lot are...are...amazing!
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 08:15:57 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if the horse had been called M1NCE? or INVINCIBLE?
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Tarquin Thunderthighs lll on June 19, 2009, 08:47:34 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if the horse had been called M1NCE? or INVINCIBLE?

"M1NCE"? Would that be its registration plate, or what?
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 08:57:31 AM
That was a typo. YOU try spelling it correctly on here now - it's impossible! Gremlins I tell you.

I get as far as minc then it refuses to accept it.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Roger Kettle on June 19, 2009, 09:28:51 AM

Name the Little Bighorn survivor, a Medal of Honor recipient, who later worked for Lieut. Francis Gibson in the New York City Street Department.


Neil Bancroft.
That's brilliant, Vulch! How did you find that?
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Roger Kettle on June 19, 2009, 09:30:57 AM
Was the horsie called "Vic"?

"He rode his horse - Vic - into battle at the LBH. Vic was either killed or was a POW." http://www.mohicanpress.com/wwwboard1/messages/416.html

See Vulture's response to this answer. Stupid boy.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 09:31:13 AM

Name the Little Bighorn survivor, a Medal of Honor recipient, who later worked for Lieut. Francis Gibson in the New York City Street Department.


Neil Bancroft.
That's brilliant, Vulch! How did you find that?


She used to go out with him.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Vulture on June 19, 2009, 10:14:26 AM

Name the Little Bighorn survivor, a Medal of Honor recipient, who later worked for Lieut. Francis Gibson in the New York City Street Department.


Neil Bancroft.
That's brilliant, Vulch! How did you find that?

Wiki - looked up Medal of Honor recipients - 7th Cavalry - 1873 - he was the only one.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Joan on June 19, 2009, 11:51:23 AM
I just posted something stupid and I don't know how to remove the post, so here's a pretty picture instead -

(http://users.tpg.com.au/pdcs01//skyeburn.jpg)

Sorry Roger, hope you've got all the answers now.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 11:59:18 AM
I'm going to post something stupid now: Minc.... no, it won't let me complete it!
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Malc on June 19, 2009, 12:01:27 PM
Who was Dan Tucker? I just researched this article about a Dave Tucker, later known as Dan. He was a Silver City lawman, but I don't know if he's the one you're looking for

http://westernsbywilldavis.com/features.htm
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Joan on June 19, 2009, 12:11:31 PM
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I'm going to post something stupid now: Minc.... no, it won't let me complete it!

 ;D  :D  That's a "manual" quote, btw.  Poor Pilchardy, I'm sure all this is just because of the forum runner or whatever you call them.

Sorry again, Roger - back to Custer.  I'd better see if there are any questions left to google.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Joan on June 19, 2009, 12:12:33 PM
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Poor Pilchardy,
Peeps, you are a very naughty boy! LOL!
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 12:49:27 PM
Actually Minc is much maligned, but he did put a lot of work into creating the forum in the first place. I'll always be grateful to Minc for that much anyway.

Now, back to Roger's homework...
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Joan on June 19, 2009, 12:58:13 PM
Roger, I think you may actually have to visit a library to find the correct answers to some of these. Shock, horror! Google doesn't seem able to cope - especially with "blolahunkal".  ??? 
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Vulture on June 19, 2009, 01:15:08 PM
Roger, I think you may actually have to visit a library to find the correct answers to some of these. Shock, horror! Google doesn't seem able to cope - especially with "blolahunkal".  ??? 

I thought I'd cracked it and put 'blolahunkal' into google translator and clicked the 'I'm feeling lucky' button. I ended up with the Battlefield despatch website - scanned through 16 pages of bumf/bumph?? only to find the questions that Roger asked..... duh!
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Vulture on June 19, 2009, 01:19:44 PM
I think it must be Crow or some other native American language. I can't find a site that'll translate into any known Indian dialects.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 01:20:30 PM
It's actually "blolahunka" (without the "l" at the end - I checked on the quiz pdf which did show up on Google).

I just asked a mate of mine who's mending a door at a neighbour's house. He says a blolahunka was a curved instrument, made out of metal, that had bristles incorporated at one end, and a pointy bit at the other end. The pointy bit was for getting stones out of horses' hooves, and the bristle part was for brushing the dust and dirt off the feathers in the indian head-dress. It was named after Blola Hunka, who created the device by combining what had been two separate items into one implement. (Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prank))
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Tarquin Thunderthighs lll on June 19, 2009, 01:29:24 PM
He later went on to enlist in the Swiss Army, and...
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 01:57:30 PM
I think it must be Crow or some other native American language. I can't find a site that'll translate into any known Indian dialects.

"Heap-big exterminate! You will be scalped. Exterminate! Wig-wam bam, gonna make you exterminated!"
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Vulture on June 19, 2009, 02:27:17 PM
He later went on to enlist in the Swiss Army, and...


 :D :D :D Although I did work for Victorinox, one of the two official makers of Swiss Army knives, and as far as I know, there isn't a knife with a feather brush as an attachment!
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Vulture on June 19, 2009, 02:29:30 PM
I think it must be Crow or some other native American language. I can't find a site that'll translate into any known Indian dialects.

"Heap-big exterminate! You will be scalped. Exterminate! Wig-wam bam, gonna make you exterminated!"

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 02:54:48 PM
I did that little Doctor Who reference to please M1nce.  ;)
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Colin on June 19, 2009, 03:37:46 PM
Myles Moylan and Charles Varnum survived the battle on Reno Hill. Moylan, four years later, was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for conspicuous bravery at the September 30, 1877 Battle of Bear Paw.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 03:57:42 PM
Myles Moylan and Charles Varnum survived the battle on Reno Hill. Moylan, four years later, was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for conspicuous bravery at the September 30, 1877 Battle of Bear Paw.

Wasn't that a Wednesday?
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Tarquin Thunderthighs lll on June 19, 2009, 04:51:55 PM
Seems t'me that there wuz an awful lot of folks keeping records of these great battles when p'raps they shoulda bin fightin'......?
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Roger Kettle on June 19, 2009, 06:29:12 PM

Name the Little Bighorn survivor, a Medal of Honor recipient, who later worked for Lieut. Francis Gibson in the New York City Street Department.


Neil Bancroft.
That's brilliant, Old Vulcha! How did you find that?
Okay, who's changing my posts? "Vulch" to "Old Vulcha". And, well, why?
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 06:32:54 PM
I think it's a glitch in the system, Roger. I'll have a go at fixing it now...
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Roger Kettle on June 19, 2009, 06:33:53 PM
This ain't no glitch. I'm buggering off elsewhere for a while.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Diane CBPFC on June 19, 2009, 07:20:59 PM
I knew my facebook friends would come through for you Roger!

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sounds like a character from tellytubbies

So, that's one less to look for.  ;D
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Tom on June 19, 2009, 07:57:11 PM
It's amazing just what you can read on the internet nowadies.

I never thought I'd be reading about native american daleks, horses with registration plates or knives with feathers mind.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Tom on June 19, 2009, 08:06:47 PM
"Heap-big exterminate! You will be scalped. Exterminate! Wig-wam bam, gonna make you exterminated!"
;D ;D ;D
I've got that song in my head now... and a bizarre image of some daleks trying a little wig wam bam  ;D
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Tom on June 19, 2009, 08:11:14 PM
I just posted something stupid and I don't know how to remove the post, so here's a pretty picture instead
I don't think anyone's noticed, Joan - you've got away with it!  ;D
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Roger Kettle on June 19, 2009, 08:36:31 PM
Looks like I'm going to have to go through all my books, cover to cover. Thanks to all those who tried. As I say every year, the advent of the internet has meant that the questions get more and more obscure.
Vulch, I'm now not sure about your answer. Several guys at the Little Bighorn got the Medal of Honor so I'll look into this a bit further.
Malc, I also found that Dan Tucker marshall---can't find a Custer connection. Dammit.
Anyway, thanks again for your efforts.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: The Peepmaster on June 19, 2009, 08:43:48 PM
Roger, this competition is tearing you apart. I know there's a ?20 prize, but is that worth losing family and friends over?

I can sense your tension and distress, but we're your mates, and most of us will still speak to you if you fail miserably.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Tom on June 19, 2009, 09:03:07 PM
I have been doing some research into horses of history, and found a few names associated with Custer:
Don Juan
Harry
Lancer
Roanoke
I haven't found any links to August 11th 1873 or Yellowstone unfortunately...  :(
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Diane CBPFC on June 20, 2009, 06:14:01 AM
I have just put the question to the Alberta Librarians "Ask a Question" service - I think they may find it.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Diane CBPFC on June 23, 2009, 09:26:49 PM
This is from the Alberta Libraries clever people:

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Thank-you for your question. We didn't have any luck in
finding the answer for you, but our colleagues in Calgary
had more success.

    Here's what they found:

    In looking at information about the Battle of the Little
    Big Horn, I found reference to the Lakota, Cheyenne and
    Sioux Tribes. I also found out the Dakota are a division
    of the Sioux.

    In checking any dictionaries related these tribes I came
    across the following entry. It is not exact only similar
but
    and sending the information in case it is close enough
to be
    of assistance to you.

    It is from A Dakota - English Dictionary by Stephen
    Return Riggs published by Ross and Haines, 1968.

    The entry reads:
    blotanhunka noun the leader of a war party

    I know that's not exactly the word you were looking
for, but it the only thing we have been able to find that
even comes close.

Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Roger Kettle on June 23, 2009, 09:59:37 PM
Diane, that's great! I can't believe you went to all that trouble. It certainly sounds like the right answer to me and it's going in. Thanks a million.
Title: Re: The Annual Plea For Help.
Post by: Diane CBPFC on June 24, 2009, 03:43:33 PM
It was no trouble on my part Roger - and the "Ask a Question" people don't have replyable email to even say thank you - they must be a bunch of retired professors because a lot of it was aimed at uni specialties. Good for them I say - keep those clever people busy.