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Title: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Joan on July 24, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
this view of Sydney city before -

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_03GS3Izjqag/SmlBAkUNTFI/AAAAAAAAGak/AjT0ZbBuXDs/s720/bushwalk090724bantrybay045.jpg)


(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_03GS3Izjqag/SmlA-PVe62I/AAAAAAAAGPk/xScreRoLjro/s720/bushwalk090724bantrybay043.jpg)

That's the city on the far right

More of today's bush walk  here (http://picasaweb.google.com/bjjktg/BushwalkBantryBayLoop#)
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Roger Kettle on July 24, 2009, 09:32:49 AM
Terrific photos, Joan. It seems amazing to me that there is such an apparent wilderness so close to Sydney. I really enjoy seeing photos like this---maybe we should set up a section on here where regulars can post their travel pics.
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Joan on July 24, 2009, 10:07:19 AM
Good idea, Roger.  As to the wilderness, the convicts were quite environmentally conscious - not the convicts, of course, but some of our founding fathers were, and the Royal National Park south of Sydney was the second National Park in the world to be created.  I think our local one, Ku-ring-gai was the fourth.  This one, Garigal, was created fairly recently, but the whole area contained reserves.  I was amazed at the trees when I first arrived.  There was an uproar about logging down south (quite rightly at the time) and when I looked out over the vista of bush as far as you could see, just north of Sydney, my thoughts were, "What are they going on about?"  The number of rivers, ocean and beaches around Sydney help, I think.
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Diane CBPFC on July 24, 2009, 01:52:29 PM
If Sydney were to run out of gas/petrol for lawnmowers - it would be swallowed up by the jungle in a matter of weeks!
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Malc on July 24, 2009, 02:30:20 PM
Sydney is regarded as the best natural harbour in the world, bar none. Its deep, sheltered inlets are perfect for hiding from storms, and the First Fleet realised this after first dropping anchor at Botany Bay a few miles to the south, which they found to be rubbish, before moving further north to Jackson's Cove (later to become Sydney Harbour).

I used to live at Botany Bay, well, a small house at Como-Jannali, it was our first place after arriving in Oz, with two babies and a deep well of homesickness. Amazingly we were young parents then, and now, a mere 14 years later, we're old parents. How fast it goes.

I remember reading Clive James' autobiography "Unreliable Memoirs" before we left the UK. I regarded it as merely a funny book. I re-read it after I had lived in the Sutherland Shire a couple of years, and all the place names leapt out at me. James was a Kogarah boy, and his boyhood memories take on massive new significances once you've lived where he did.
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Rob Baker on July 24, 2009, 06:47:22 PM
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Sydney is regarded as the best natural harbour in the world, bar none.
I was always led to believe that was Poole harbour, Malc.   Great photos though Joan.
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Malc on July 26, 2009, 12:06:06 AM
Poole? Nah. Poole harbour is like a supermodel, beautiful but shallow.
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Vulture on July 26, 2009, 10:28:07 AM
Poole? Nah. Poole harbour is like a supermodel, beautiful but shallow.

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Joan on August 08, 2009, 03:16:39 PM
The latest offering - and the last for a while.  This walk was 16.65km - thought it was never going to end!  Had a small operation on my leg to take out a bcc yesterday, so no major exercise for two weeks - needed to recover from Thursday anyway.  ..0

This walk was through a different part of Garigal National Park - see map at end.


(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_03GS3Izjqag/SnrHNTQHmPI/AAAAAAAAGkY/1qm67LiD0eo/s800/sarahduftypreg011.jpg)

Those are black boys - grass trees which have a very slow growth rate, so some of them are probably over 100 years old.  Trevor lost the trail here, because a fire had been through (see the blackened tree trunks).  At least that was his excuse - it got pretty rough for a while.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_03GS3Izjqag/SnrHqgaRcPI/AAAAAAAAGlQ/sAxShzQoafA/s800/sarahduftypreg024.jpg)

These are lorikeets just before we got to Davidson Park (civilisation).  Cheeky wee things - quite tame.

The rest are here (http://picasaweb.google.com/bjjktg/BushwalkGarigalNationalPark?feat=directlink)

Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Diane CBPFC on August 08, 2009, 03:56:58 PM
What is a bcc?

That is a great bird photo!
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Joan on August 08, 2009, 04:22:18 PM
Basal cell carcinoma - sounds worse than it is. It's a skin cancer, but it rarely metastasizes. Family history - but probably not helped by sunbathing when I was younger - hoping it will make some impression on Kate to stop sunbathing.  Think she should come with me to the skin specialist's waiting room to see the people who are being treated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_cell_carcinoma
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Malc on August 08, 2009, 11:56:32 PM
This is for non-Aussies:
Skin cancers are a fact of life here. White people don't do sun well, and you see people every day with little band-aids on their faces, arms legs, etc.
A very good friend of mine has been a surfer all his life, and spent his formative years almost totally on the beach. If I had been an Aussie at that time I probably would have been the same. His face is covered with inch-wide discolouration patches due to exposure to the sun in his youth.
He also goes to get cancers cut out regularly.

I was coaching yesterday on a hot sunny day, and I had not put on sunscreen, because I do believe that some sun is healthy, but even some young Aussies still do not use it at all. The message is taking a long time getting through.
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Diane CBPFC on August 09, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
Poor you Joan. I imagine you have to check yourself out regularly.

It is very sunny here too and we have to be careful - even in the winter I need sunglasses for the snow glare.

Malc you should put on screen as it only lasts so many hours anyway you would still get some sun when it wore off.
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: The Peepmaster on August 09, 2009, 09:55:48 PM
I don't see the point of ugly blokes getting sun-tans. They're still ugly - only a darker shade, aren't they?
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Diane CBPFC on August 10, 2009, 01:26:49 AM
I had a black friend when I lived in Wales who used to sun tan - I didn't see the point of that either but was too polite back then to bring it up.
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Vulture on August 10, 2009, 05:38:53 AM
I don't see the point of ugly blokes getting sun-tans. They're still ugly - only a darker shade, aren't they?

Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder! We can't all be good looking - if there weren't any ugly people, then good looking people would just look ordinary!
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: robbie62 on August 10, 2009, 07:29:38 PM
I don't see the point of ugly blokes getting sun-tans. They're still ugly - only a darker shade, aren't they?
who made you judge ?
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Vulture on August 10, 2009, 07:49:54 PM
I don't see the point of ugly blokes getting sun-tans. They're still ugly - only a darker shade, aren't they?
who made you judge ?

the mirror??
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Joan on August 11, 2009, 12:30:29 AM
Yes, well, my leg looks very ugly at the moment - an incision stitched up with black stitches is not exactly a pretty sight.  Still, it's better than what was there before, even though it looked fairly innocent - it wasn't!  There's always something, isn't there? Apparently, more people are suffering from a deficiency in Vitamin D these days because we slap on the sunscreen all the time.  The stuff we use over here is very strong as well - usually more than factor 30.  I wander around outside the house so much during the day, I reckon I probably get enough.

I know what you mean about your friend, Malc.  My Australian girlfriends my age all used to go to the beach every day in their bikinis and slap on the baby oil! or coconut oil to get a good tan - they basically fried in this sun.  We used to do it as well, but the strength of the sun, when it was out, was minimal compared to here.  It really shows on their skin now.

As Diane says, sunglasses are the other thing you should wear, especially when young - I have to wear them in the summer here when I go out the back door because we have white pavers everywhere and the glare is just too much.  They protect against macula degeneration, they reckon - my mum in Scotland had it, but hers was due to smoking.

I do get checked every year, but actually went in with this one as it had changed colour and was looking a bit dicey.  Will have to go more often now.  As Malc says, it's par for the course here.

Enough of the lectures!  I'm fine - leg is healing nicely - throwing anitibiotics at it - being looked after very well and milking it well too - beginning to feel a bit guilty, though!  :)
Title: Re: I bet none of you have seen ...
Post by: Malc on August 11, 2009, 01:29:07 AM
Black people DO tan, my mate Jim, whose dad is Nigerian and whose mother is white, goes darker in Summer. Africans tan too.
Melanoma is very rare in coloured people, and oddly enough, when it happens it occurs on the "white" bits (palms of hands or feet).