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Beau Peep Notice Board => Outpourings => Topic started by: Mince on July 24, 2026, 09:29:53 AM
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I really enjoyed this fan-made video of Star Trek speeches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNu1cdISsvY
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My contribution to this thread is my hand in Leonard Nimoy's bronze casting - the only place you can do this on earth is in a small town called Vulcan in southern Alberta.
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I finally got round to watching this and I'm a bit baffled. I honestly don't know if this is a genuine tribute or a piss-take.
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I can understand where you're coming from. I once watched a game of football, where twenty-two adult men voluntarily entered a rectangular field and spent ninety minutes running around in small groups after a ball, occasionally kicking it away from themselves and then chasing it again, unable to pick it up, despite their having hands, with others paying money to watch the whole thing. I was sure at one point that they were doing all this to confuse me.
Have you actually watched much Star Trek?
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Not a lot, no, but I found it mildly amusing. It was clearly written and performed with tongue-in-cheek and I found that quite entertaining. I never really got into any TV science fiction. I was too young to watch Quatermass back in the Fifties but adults at the time regarded it as scary. I read and enjoyed quite a lot of science fiction books when I was younger with 1984 and The War of the Worlds still among my favourites.
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I can to an extent understand the tongue-in-cheek: the original Star Trek could be camp, with low-budget sets, theatrical acting, and over-the-top costumes; the story-telling was light-hearted so that non-sci-fi fans could enjoy the ride; and sometimes futuristic concepts became absurd and comical.
The later Star Trek could be similar, but also grittier, with lines like: "What you call genocide, I call a day's work."
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A great line. Weirdly, in my head, I can hear it in Schwarzenegger's voice!
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I've always regarded Star Trek as science fantasy rather than science fiction.
Similarly, the difference between the football match you "watched", Mincey, and the ones that actually occurred.
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I've always regarded Star Trek as science fantasy rather than science fiction.
The original Star Trek was more science fiction than the later next generation episodes, which had omnipotent beings, psychic powers and reality manipulation. At least the original, even if it could not give a technological answer, presumed there was one. Star Wars is more science fantasy with the force.
Similarly, the difference between the football match you "watched", Mincey, and the ones that actually occurred.
I've always regarded football as pissing about on a field rather than sport.
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The original Star Trek was more science fiction than the later next generation episodes, which had omnipotent beings, psychic powers and reality manipulation. At least the original, even if it could not give a technological answer, presumed there was one. Star Wars is more science fantasy with the force.
The original? You mean the one with the Tribbles and the alien rock?
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I've always regarded football as pissing about on a field rather than sport.
Have you ever actually sat through a whole football match?
It's the very epitome of what all sport should be. Competitive combat between two teams of supreme finely-honed athletes giving their all in the pursuit of victory. Although I admit it may have lost a little of that since the days Roger and I used to play regularly for DC Thomson comic sides.
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Have you ever actually sat through a whole football match?
Thankfully not even in my nightmares.
It's the very epitome of what all sport should be. Competitive combat between two teams of supreme finely-honed athletes giving their all in the pursuit of victory. Although I admit it may have lost a little of that since the days Roger and I used to play regularly for DC Thomson comic sides.
Or, less romanticised, loads of people being weirdly emotionally invested in the performances of millionaires kicking a ball around.
I’m sure the DC Thomson comic sides were a fun kickabout, but I can’t see it as anything other than the useless being hopeless at the pointless.
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When it came to team sports as a child when two sporty kids got to pick teams one by one, were where you positioned in the line up Mince?
There is no shame in coming in last.
Thankfully I was always second to last thanks to the kid with the club foot.
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When it came to team sports as a child when two sporty kids got to pick teams one by one, were where you positioned in the line up Mince?
I was usually deliberately at the back, or better still, badly fielding in cricket (never having the time or desire to get my hands out of my pockets to catch the ball) and constantly wandering off. My and my friends' strategy was to "play" so appallingly at all times (take too much time, knock things over, create a mess, look bewildered even when things were explained to us ten times) that we were eventually ignored and allowed to do our own thing.
There is no shame in coming in last.
The supposed shame of coming last only exists because you've accepted the premise that the competition matters.
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Thankfully I was always second to last thanks to the kid with the club foot.
I know you are being humorous, but there you have it in a nutshell. Rather than, like me, rejecting the whole stupid hierarchy and pointless choosing, you accept it and end up being grateful that there was someone even more disadvantaged than you to take the bottom place and alleviate your own embarrassment. To my mind, the only shame in the whole thing was the decision to put children through that humiliating process of choosing in the first place, and the only correct thing to do is to reject it and rage against it.
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School was so competitive back then in every subject - you were told your place on the report cards X/XX students and how you did at age 11 decided you future. I was at a disadvantage because I was part of an experimental teaching method in England (The Initial Teaching Alphabet) then moved so a normal school in Wales so never got it corrected other than figuring things out myself.
Sports was just one thing of many.
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To my mind, the only shame in the whole thing was the decision to put children through that humiliating process of choosing in the first place, and the only correct thing to do is to reject it and rage against it.
I totally agree. I was never comfortable with that. I really hope it's a thing of the past.
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School was so competitive back then in every subject - you were told your place on the report cards X/XX students and how you did at age 11 decided you future.
I had something similar, and I did not want my genius, incredible athletic ability, and all-round Adonis presence to make others feel inferior, hence the deliberate wish to be chosen last and the deliberate refusal to compete. I do hope schools have improved since then.
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I had something similar, and I did not want my genius, incredible athletic ability, and all-round Adonis presence to make others feel inferior, hence the deliberate wish to be chosen last and the deliberate refusal to compete. I do hope schools have improved since then.
It's true, Diane. I've met him in person. I've never felt so humbled and inferior.
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It's true, Diane. I've met him in person. I've never felt so humbled and inferior.
Tarks, I am so burdened with greatness that even my humility can be intimidating: at school, my coming last invariably looked suspiciously like an achievement. Next time we meet, I'll try to slouch more to put you at ease.
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I'd appreciate that very much, your Humble Highness.