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Beau Peep Notice Board => Outpourings => Topic started by: Roger Kettle on March 13, 2008, 10:59:41 PM
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I remember discussing this some time ago but it's always fascinating for me. And PLEASE don't even consider anything I've done because, firstly, that's not the point and, secondly, it doesn't stand up. ( I was never original in my ideas---I took the well-worn path of spoofing established heroes like legionnaires and cowboys).
For me, I guess it's "Peanuts". Much maligned because of its global success, it is a wonderful strip. Clever, imaginative, well drawn and way ahead of its time when it first appeared in the fifties. It was a huge influence on me and many others. There has been lots of other stuff that I've loved and envied...Larson... Calvin and Hobbes...B.C...The Fosdyke Saga...Angus Og (A Scottish strip)... Footrot Flats....oh, and lots more.
Anyway, what's your favourite?
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Peanuts bored me. I could sometimes read about thirty strips and not find anything remotely interesting or funny.
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Yep - definitely Peanuts, Roger. You'd have to be a completely soulless, humourless git not to appreciate Charlie Brown and the gang.
Okay - what shall we do now?
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I agree with you, Roger. 'Peanuts' is definitely one of my favourites. I love 'Oor Wullie' and 'The Broons' as well. Apart from Calvin and Hobbes, I haven't heard of anyone else on your list. What about Hagar?
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Yep - definitely Peanuts, Roger. You'd have to be a completely soulless, humourless git not to appreciate Charlie Brown and the gang.
Okay - what shall we do now?
I suppose you want to start on Mince again, don't you?
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I agree whole-heartedly, Roger. Peanuts was hilarious. I used to buy as many of the books as I could. Only a demented haddock with the IQ of a lentil could possibly fail to see its appeal.
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At least I genuinely answered Roger's post.
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At least I genuinely answered Roger's post.
So did I.
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I only laugh out loud at Beau Peep and Herman.
I think Larson is brilliant and I thought Footrot Flats and Peanuts ? cute and sentimental. I hate Garfield.
I bought my son (13) the complete Calvenn & Hobbes boxed set of three hard covers for Christmas ? he was made up ? I don?t think they are very funny at all but he read them all before the New Year. He also likes Garfield and Peanuts.
I was able to buy my oldest son (16) every cartoon book of Hagar on eBay once as a job lot ? he loves them. I also promised him my Beau Peep collection when I?m gone. This was because we were sitting on the top of the Ferris wheel and it was going back and forth and I was afeard for my life ? I promised him the books if he stopped making it swing back and forth.
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You were afeard for your life? Belay there, and I'll flay the hide of any man jack who takes the mick out of yer grammar, wench, aharr.
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Before I get accused of sucking up to Roger, let me first state that I am not in hock to him in any way, neither financially, spritually or socially.
Beau Peep was a revelation when it appeared, at least it was to me.
British strips had always been very sedate, even Andy Capp was conservative and very much straight down the line, Smythe's humour was first rate, but very much of its time, a cartoon version of the Little Waster (Bobby Thompson), a man who oozed working class image and values, but you just knew he voted Tory.
Beau came out of nowhere, as I suppose any strip does, but I identified with it immediately, and I didn't know it was written and drawn by Scots for many years afterwards. It made as big an impression on me as Far Side or Dilbert did later.
Peanuts? Definitely a groundbreaking strip, and the first to cross the Atlantic into Europe via book sales. I was introduced to Peanuts and Asterix at the same time by my English teacher, Miss Thomson, who was a hip and happenin' twenty five year-old at the time.
Schulz had the courage to be laid back, trusting the audience's intelligence, and it worked for him, creating a model for other successful strips to follow later.
There are many more strips, some of which will occur to me later, but I will push Lobey Dosser, a contender for the greatest strip ever to come out of Scotland, and like Angus Og, a victim of its home-based appeal and patter.
Bud Neill remains largely unheralded even in his own country and I take every opportunity to bring his name up. Lobey Dosser was of its time, and brilliantly drawn and conceived, check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Neill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Neill)
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Peanuts bored me. I could sometimes read about thirty strips and not find anything remotely interesting or funny.
Mince is entitled to his opinion, surely. And he can't be ALL bad if his likes Beau Peep.
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Of course Mince is allowed his opinion. We allowed him to put his reply first. We're a democratic board, and a pillock spouting tosh has as much right to be heard as sensible people.
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Goodness, Malc. I thought I was the only one who liked Asterix. I have all the books but everyone I know thinks they're rubbish. The main problem may be that they're not willing to read them with a Latin/English dictionary to hand!
I've never thought of them as a cartoon strip - possibly because they're 'whole' books.
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Sorry Roger but for me Beau Peep Hit my funny bone from the first cartoon.And I then went and showed it to Mince.
We all have mad moments.
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I did a very funny post about Shuggie and Duggie, but, presumably because I hit "Post" about the same time as Peter, it didn't get through and now will never see the light of day .. but wait, methinks I hear a roar of cyber laughter surging over Saturn.
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...a very funny post about Shuggie and Duggie...
Now there's a novelty!
Vult, I love Asterix too (I did a little Latin at school). It's magnificent on all counts, but I have a soft spot for the artwork in particular. Simply stunning!
You're right about Mince...and so is Peepsie. You accuse one of the all-time greats, and most-loved of cartoonists of producing tedium on a board heavily populated by cartoonists and cartoon enthusiasts at your peril. But for the record, I thought Peepsie's lentil comparison was uncalled for. Even if I did laugh.
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You accuse one of the all-time greats, and most-loved of cartoonists of producing tedium on a board heavily populated by cartoonists and cartoon enthusiasts at your peril.
I have not made any comments about Peanuts. My comments were about my experiences with Peanuts. There is a difference, lentil brain.
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But for the record, I thought Peepsie's lentil comparison was uncalled for. Even if I did laugh.
My apologies to lentils everywhere.
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This is just to annoy Roger (the second half of the clip).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLcsPgYrZ9Q
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You accuse one of the all-time greats, and most-loved of cartoonists of producing tedium on a board heavily populated by cartoonists and cartoon enthusiasts at your peril.
I have not made any comments about Peanuts. My comments were about my experiences with Peanuts. There is a difference, lentil brain.
My apologies. I should have written, "You accuse one of the all-time greats, and most-loved of cartoonists of producing stuff that bores the frilly pink pants off you, on a board heavily populated by cartoonists and cartoon enthusiasts, at your peril."
I accept that what you wrote says more about you than Charles M. Schulz, and in that light, I rescind my earlier remark about Peepsie's lentil comparison, with due apologies to both Peepmaster and all leguminous pulses everywhere.
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My apologies. I should have written, "You accuse one of the all-time greats, and most-loved of cartoonists of producing stuff that bores the frilly pink pants off you, on a board heavily populated by cartoonists and cartoon enthusiasts, at your peril."
Once again, you make assumptions: who said they were frilly?
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Educated guess.
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More like lucky guess.
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More like lucky guess.
What's the odds on a 'luck guess' guessing they were frilly and pink?
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What's the odds on a 'luck guess'
::)
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More like lucky guess.
What's the odds on a 'luck guess' guessing they were frilly and pink?
I stand by my 'educated guess' claim, whilst thanking Mince for the confirmation.
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You were afeard for your life? Belay there, and I'll flay the hide of any man jack who takes the mick out of yer grammar, wench, aharr.
I've used the word afeard since watching the movie The Little Kidnappers
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This is just to annoy Roger (the second half of the clip).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLcsPgYrZ9Q
Why do you WANT to annoy me?
The clip you posted is very funny. I presume you are suggesting that I was fishing for compliments in my original question. Given that I asked for my work NOT to be considered, I suppose you've mildly annoyed me. Nah. Not really.
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Goodness, Malc. I thought I was the only one who liked Asterix. I have all the books but everyone I know thinks they're rubbish. The main problem may be that they're not willing to read them with a Latin/English dictionary to hand!
I've never thought of them as a cartoon strip - possibly because they're 'whole' books.
I've also got every Asterix book. Sheer genius and I love them to bits.
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Why do you WANT to annoy me?
I don't understand. "WANT" suggests having a reason. Why do I need one of them?
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Malc, the Bud Neill stuff was great. Sadly, I never saw it when it was on the go (We didn't get the Glasgow Evening Times up North) but I've tried to catch up in recent years. Surreal magic.
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I only laugh out loud at Beau Peep and Herman.
I think Larson is brilliant and I thought Footrot Flats and Peanuts ? cute and sentimental. I hate Garfield.
I bought my son (13) the complete Calvenn & Hobbes boxed set of three hard covers for Christmas ? he was made up ? I don?t think they are very funny at all but he read them all before the New Year. He also likes Garfield and Peanuts.
I was able to buy my oldest son (16) every cartoon book of Hagar on eBay once as a job lot ? he loves them. I also promised him my Beau Peep collection when I?m gone. This was because we were sitting on the top of the Ferris wheel and it was going back and forth and I was afeard for my life ? I promised him the books if he stopped making it swing back and forth.
Diane, when Hagar first appeared, I thought it was excellent. However, after its creator Dik Browne died and it was taken up by his son, I felt it lost quite a lot. The artwork remained much the same but, in my opinion, the scripts never had the bite of the original.
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You're our favourite cartoon stripper, and we respect you most highly, Kettle-features.
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Thank you, Peepsie-Poo.
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You're our favourite cartoon stripper, and we respect you most highly, Kettle-features.
I thought we weren't supposed to say that? Cat's out of the bag now.