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Offline Mince

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Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« on: September 17, 2015, 07:06:14 AM »
I assume for Roger Kettle, the answer is no, because I don't think a robot can ever learn humour.

As for me, I'll be programming the robots that take everyone else's job, unless someone programs a robot to program a robot.

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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2015, 09:04:58 AM »
No.

Convince me otherwise.
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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2015, 09:23:52 AM »
Well, couldn't it be taught to take an animal or person and then exaggerate features to produce caricatures? Obviously the accompanying joke is something different, but I assume that basic puns are programmable.

For example, given the concept of old Christopher Lee Dracula films being shown, I'm sure a program could come up with "Fangs for the Memory".

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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2015, 09:45:41 AM »
Well, couldn't it be taught to take an animal or person and then exaggerate features to produce caricatures?

You make it sound so simple. So,you think you could programme a robot to draw, for example, this...?
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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2015, 09:57:32 AM »
Program, no, but an AI could probably learn how to, the same way you did. I guess it depends on whether you think a machine brain can learn, or be self-aware, or conscious.

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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2015, 10:22:34 AM »
My guess (and hope) is that we're still a world away from machines being capable of original thought, calculated creativity (rather than random), and observational humour all in the same package, working with each other to produce something like the cartoon I posted.

My iPhone cracks jokes when you ask Siri daft questions, but soon repeats those jokes when it runs out of new ones. You can programme machines to draw beautifully, and copy Old Masters to near perfection, but not to have the idea for the images in the first place. If you sat for a dozen different caricaturists, you would get a dozen different caricatures. Yes, they will hopefully all look like you, but each caricaturist will pick on different features to play with, and exaggerate or underplay to different levels. All may have been taught (programmed) in very similar fashion, but no two caricatures will be the same, and each will have a different style. Within that, if I was to draw the same person a dozen times, you would still get a dozen very different caricatures, as I'd get bored using the same style and draw each one differently.

You may one day be able to programme a robot to draw a basic caricature of a face, but incorporating style, variety, emotion, and even boredom into all of that, I think, is a very long way off. I hope so anyway.
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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2015, 10:26:36 AM »
Program, no, but an AI could probably learn how to, the same way you did.

I'm still learning, by the way, and improving. That's not simply down to honing my skills and technique - it's also about how my own eyes see things, as influenced by the life I've lived. I can't see how a machine can emulate that.
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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2015, 10:42:00 AM »
So once again, do you think an artificial brain can become self-aware and conscious?

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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2015, 11:33:13 AM »
Does it matter what I think? I'm no expert. Ask the robot.
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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2015, 11:41:21 AM »
So once again, do you think an artificial brain can become self-aware and conscious?

I love the idea, but apparently that's only going to be okay if that love is non physical, having read about someone, who clearly has too much time on their hands, wanting to outlaw sexual relations with robots.

I do believe that at some point in the not too distant future AI will be achieved and will become self-aware and conscious, which will probably kick off another religious persecution due to the "lack of souls", at another not too distant point I believe that said AI will come to the conclusion there is a fundamental flaw in humanity which will either result in genocide [my favourite] or the AI pulling its own plug and leaving it to us to achieve the same result, only messier.

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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2015, 12:00:17 PM »
My thoughts are that computer (or man-made) brains can be intelligent, creative, even self-aware, but ultimately just a machine that appears conscious, and may even fool us into thinking it is conscious, but not conscious. I can't believe that electrons and atoms moving around can produce the consciousness that I experience. And since the human brain is also a bunch of atoms and electrons moving around, I don't believe that is able to produce consciousness either. So that leaves me wondering whether we are all in fact spiritual beings in a 'virtual reality' world.

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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2015, 12:35:34 PM »
I can't believe that electrons and atoms moving around can produce the consciousness that I experience.

Let's all be thankful for small mercies.
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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2015, 12:37:13 PM »
So that leaves me wondering whether we are all in fact spiritual beings in a 'virtual reality' world.

You mean like The Matrix? Or Mary Poppins?
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Re: Can a Robot Do Your Job?
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2015, 12:41:21 PM »
Oh, it would have to be the Matrix.