Author Topic: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?  (Read 7936 times)

peter

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2008, 09:55:06 AM »
Malc I am a fully qualified Referee

Malc

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2008, 10:16:25 AM »
I instinctively knew that.

Malc

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2008, 10:17:13 AM »
Lord only knows what they made of the match reports at Ref Control.

peter

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2008, 10:19:45 AM »
Never booked anyone or sent anyone off.

Colin

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2008, 01:31:01 PM »
Can someone explain the offside rule then?  ;D

Malc

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2008, 02:51:17 PM »
There have to be at least two opponents between you and their goal line when the ball is kicked to you.

Next...

Malc

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2008, 03:13:40 PM »
Where people get confused with the above rule is when they only see ONE opponent between the attacker and the goal, and commentators are discussing whether the attacker is level with him.

The other opponent is of course the goalie, who is most often standing on his goal line.

The most common mistake spectators make is shouting that an attacker is well onside, when he is already past the goalie with only a single defender to beat when the ball is played to him.

 With only that single opponent to beat, he's already in an offside position. Once he touches the ball, the whistle goes.

My best get-out clause (I ref dozens of games every year) is the "interfering with play" rule, which means that if I think a forward is distracting the goalie or is in any way giving his teammates a sneaky advantage by being in an offside position (though he doesn't touch the ball) I blow the whistle.

This effectively takes us back to the 70s when refs whistled if any attacker without the ball strayed past the last outfield defender, but I don't care, I hate the present offside rule, coaches use it to bamboozle officials, instructing players to stray offside and get in the way of goalies even if they have no expectation of getting the ball.

peter

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2008, 03:47:45 PM »
Yes but when is a player active or inactive

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2008, 06:16:36 PM »
Yes but when is a player active or inactive

Every other Wednesday, I think.
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Malc

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2008, 06:53:25 AM »
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Yes but when is a player active or inactive

When I bloody say they are.

Fyodor

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2008, 11:01:22 AM »
Where people get confused with the above rule is when they only see ONE opponent between the attacker and the goal, and commentators are discussing whether the attacker is level with him.

The other opponent is of course the goalie, who is most often standing on his goal line.

The most common mistake spectators make is shouting that an attacker is well onside, when he is already past the goalie with only a single defender to beat when the ball is played to him.

 With only that single opponent to beat, he's already in an offside position. Once he touches the ball, the whistle goes.

My best get-out clause (I ref dozens of games every year) is the "interfering with play" rule, which means that if I think a forward is distracting the goalie or is in any way giving his teammates a sneaky advantage by being in an offside position (though he doesn't touch the ball) I blow the whistle.

This effectively takes us back to the 70s when refs whistled if any attacker without the ball strayed past the last outfield defender, but I don't care, I hate the present offside rule, coaches use it to bamboozle officials, instructing players to stray offside and get in the way of goalies even if they have no expectation of getting the ball.

Point of information ref:
The player receiving the ball must have been ahead of the ball when it was played to him. If he was behind it, he cannot be offside no matter how many, if any, opponents are between him and the ball.

Malc

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2008, 08:57:40 PM »
Correct, but also bear in mind he CAN be ahead of the ball from a throw-in or a goal kick and still be onside, even if he is closer to the opponents goal line than EVERY opponent. The same applies if he is in his own half of the field (this situation does occur when every player, both goalies included, crowds the goal for a corner in the last seconds of a game, for instance).

Also bear in mind that the offside player may not be a "he" as women play the game too.

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2008, 09:39:56 AM »
...women play the game too.

Whatever next...  ::)
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Fyodor

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2008, 10:21:39 AM »
Correct, but also bear in mind he CAN be ahead of the ball from a throw-in or a goal kick and still be onside, even if he is closer to the opponents goal line than EVERY opponent. The same applies if he is in his own half of the field (this situation does occur when every player, both goalies included, crowds the goal for a corner in the last seconds of a game, for instance).

Also bear in mind that the offside player may not be a "he" as women play the game too.

Agreed and we must also bear in mind that an onside player may be a woman or child of either gender AND if the ball is played by an opponent to her/him while s/he is in a putative offside position, s/he will be automatically onside.

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Re: Malc's Mighty Bulldogs. Who Could Have Guessed It Would End Like This?
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2008, 11:25:23 AM »
What about dogs? I've seen dogs run on pitches. And birds (feathery ones)?
I apologise, in advance.