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Offline The Peepmaster

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BBC License Fee - have your say...
« on: September 25, 2008, 09:29:41 AM »
Here's the chance to let them know what you think. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/index.html
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Re: BBC License Fee - have your say...
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 10:13:31 AM »
They wouldn't want to know what I think.

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Re: BBC License Fee - have your say...
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 10:30:28 AM »
I think it's great.
I apologise, in advance.

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Re: BBC License Fee - have your say...
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 10:50:50 AM »

Malc

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Re: BBC License Fee - have your say...
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 12:54:39 PM »
Give thanks for the BBC.

Take it from someone who lives in a country where there is technically state funded broadcasting, but which underfunds it and leaves the airwaves open to commercial channels which produce unmitigated shite. Don't get me started. Seriously.

The Australian channels 7, 9 and 10 are absolute criminals. They'll start broadcasting a series and if it doesn't get the ratings required, they'll just cancel it half way through!
Every year they try and come with "gripping Australian drama" using the same actors who stuffed up last year's attempt at "gripping Australian drama", usually Melbourne-based acting mafia who spend their whole lives jumping from failed project to even worse failed project.

What passes for celebrity here is absolutely scandalous. The so-called red carpet occasions include The Logies, (Australia's BAFTAs) and the Brownlow Medal awards, which is Aussie Rules football's Night Of Nights, where a medal is won by the player adjudged by his meathead peers to be the "Best And Fairest" in other words he managed to punch them off the ball the most times without being seen by the officials.

At one or other of these glitzy yawn inducing wastes of air time, there is sometimes an American celebrity present. They usually adopt an air of stupefied wonder at how so many stupid, gauche and naive Australians have managed to stay alive in a country which is home to ten of the most venomous snakes in the world.

They keep looking at their watch, as though counting down the minutes until their plane leaves, and have to endure the most abysmal cross examinations in interviews with dickhead DJs and morning show presenters.

No kidding, Pamela Anderson was just here and she left reeking with integrity.

The BBC? You've got no problems. As they say in Oz, go home and take a good look at yerselves.

Joan

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 01:42:22 PM »
 <- Don't hold back, Malc, will you?  I have to say, I agree with most of what you said, especially about the Logies and the football awards, and the breakfast tv presenters, and the dickhead djs, and the annoying way they cancel series because of the ratings - usually things I actually like.  SBS and ABC have some good stuff, though.


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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2008, 03:15:00 PM »
Is the BBC commercial-free? And is that the reason you pay a licensing fee?

I pay $65 a month for my cable service --I downgraded from the $100 a month it was going to cost me when the fees were raised a few months ago.  I still have lots of channels -- including BBCAmerica which I love to watch. We have lots of commercials in the US even though we pay a fortune for television service. I don't have the Premium movie channels now and that's the main difference in cost. I figured that I could pay an occasional $3.99 for a pay-per-view movie just out on DVD that I wanted to see  instead of $35 a month for a bunch of channels with movies I didn't care to see.

Malc

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2008, 04:42:54 PM »
Joan, every decent Aussie thing on Aussie TV seems to have come through the ABC, including Frontline and Kath and Kim.

Kath and Kim (which has been shown in the UK) was an offshoot of the very ordinary Channel 7 sketch comedy show Big Girls Blouse, it was in fact the best thing on it.
This was my opinion when I came to Australia, I got to know two or three women called Kim and I often used Kath's (the mum) catch phrase "lok at moy, look at moy, Kimmoi" in conversation.

It got blank stares from the Kims and Aussies generally. They weren't aware of it.
Then the ABC bought the rights from the two actresses Jane Turner and Gina Riley (who play Kath and Kim - the Big Girls Blouse crew owned all the rights to the characters and concepts that they originated on that show).

It was the legendary Ted Emery (Micallef, Jimeoin) and the ABC who really created the phenomenal success that Kath and Kim became. The dumbarses at Channel Seven had not a clue what they had under their noses.

The ABC paid for and developed the Kath and Kim series as a standalone, and guess what? Everybody started going round saying "lok at moi, look at moi, Kimmoi".

Then the lure of the filthy dollar took hold and the useless articles at Channel Seven lured the Kath and Kim duo back. It became crap of course.

The tradition in the UK is different, but that's because many producers (in fact ALL of them in the early days of commercial TV) came through the Beeb. As TV inevitably becomes totally controlled and hamstrung by the desperation to secure advertising revenue and show profits to its shareholders, the standard of programmes will INEVITABLY decrease.

It's already happening. I was in the UK last year and I was dismayed to find out how much like Australian TV Britain's had become. You even have your own shock jock TV presenter, whose name escapes me, but he's a tool.

Keep the BBC licence fee. A well funded public broadcaster is absolutely fundamental to the nation's health, wellbeing, pride and a positive image of itself.
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Joan

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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2008, 10:19:25 AM »
I didn't realise that Kath and Kim started on Channel 7.  I tend not to watch shows like "Big Girls Blouse" these days - must be an age thing, I think - I find stand up comedy leaves me cold these days, as well.  If I watch, no doubt a couple of things will illicit the odd laugh, but in general I'm a bit jaded with that sort of thing.  You lot make me laugh more - sad, isn't it?


Offline The Peepmaster

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Re: BBC License Fee - have your say...
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2008, 12:06:17 PM »
It's not the license fee itself that many people object to, Malcolm. It's the tactics of the BBC's henchmen in collecting it that has aroused debate. "We know where you live" is the theme. Noel Edmonds has recently complained about it, which is why it's had recent media attention.

I have a house that I'm renovating on the island. It's uninhabited, and much of it doesn't even have a roof at the moment. Whenever I go to check the place, there will be a pile of envelopes from TV Licensing stamped with phrases such as "Final Warning" etc. There's a website HERE that displays the kind of thing.

They know it's unoccupied because I told them. That just gives a few months of respite though, before the letters, (and threats), start again. It doesn't matter that you don't require a TV License, you are automatically assumed to be committing a criminal act.
Nostalgia is not what it used to be. 😟

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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2008, 01:07:15 PM »
There's also the letters that begin: You are hereby notified that we have authorised officers from our Enforcement Division to visit your home.....

As far as I know, they have NO legal right to come into my home without my permission (which they won't get) unless they have a search warrant, which means a policeman must accompany them.

I did have a visit from some bloke with an 'identity tag' round his neck and purporting to be from the TV Licensing but I would not let him in unless he was with a uniformed policeman. I told him to go and get one and I'd let them in. This was several months ago and no-one has been back.

But the letters keep coming........ it must cost them more in postage than the fee they are trying to collect.

By the way - I DO have a tv; I only watch DVDs and videos.

Malc

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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 01:29:25 PM »
What's happened to you lot over there? In my day you didn't even let policemen into your house without a signed warrant.  >:(

Threatening letters? HAH!! I speet on them.

My dad once answered the door to the TV licence enforcer in the days of the van with the aerial on top. Dad said he didn't have the licence to hand but he offered to find it and put it under the clock on the mantlepiece if the man wanted to come back later. He explained he was going out to work but in an hour or so my mum would be home.

The TV licence man came back a couple of hours later and said to my mum "we've come about your TV licence". My mum said "I'm not sure where it is". The TV man said "it's under the clock on the mantlepiece".

She said "f*ck me, that's some van".

True story. As sure as I'm sitting here riding this buffalo.

Offline Tarquin Thunderthighs lll

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Re: BBC License Fee - have your say...
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2008, 01:42:57 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D

Aw, who needs a telly?

 ;D ;D ;D

I apologise, in advance.

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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2008, 03:03:07 PM »
What's happened to you lot over there? In my day you didn't even let policemen into your house without a signed warrant.  >:(


he said "f*ck me, that's some van".

True story. As sure as I'm sitting here riding this buffalo.

Did not know you owned a buffalo what's it's name.
How is it with kangaroos.
Bet it finds them hard to catch.

Offline The Peepmaster

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Re: BBC License Fee - have your say...
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2008, 03:28:56 PM »
There's also the letters that begin: You are hereby notified that we have authorised officers from our Enforcement Division to visit your home.....

As far as I know, they have NO legal right to come into my home without my permission (which they won't get) unless they have a search warrant, which means a policeman must accompany them.

I did have a visit from some bloke with an 'identity tag' round his neck and purporting to be from the TV Licensing but I would not let him in unless he was with a uniformed policeman. I told him to go and get one and I'd let them in. This was several months ago and no-one has been back.

But the letters keep coming........ it must cost them more in postage than the fee they are trying to collect.

By the way - I DO have a tv; I only watch DVDs and videos.

I'm tempted to write back and have emblazoned on the envelope "Your Mother's a Whore".

Then, on the letter inside, I'll put in small writing, "Please ignore the assumption if incorrect".
Nostalgia is not what it used to be. 😟